freenode is not the default IRC server

Agreed.

Linked branch fixes issue, I suppose.

This is the patch.

linked empathy upstream bug report. as empathy developers seemed interested for changing the default server. attach your patch to the upstream bug report. I cant as this debdiff contains the packaging stuff in it too.

I dont really see why Upstream would make this change. They dont use freenode. Such changes can be done at a distro level.

because empathy is created for users. and there users will use empathy for IRC support and distro support is on #ubuntu #freenode #meego on freenode.

cassidy was not there on Friday but others gave a +1

I meant #fedora ;)

On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 07:44 +0000, Omer Akram wrote:
> because empathy is created for users.

That doesnt have to mean that upstream have to set it to freenode.
The patch does the right thing in setting a default network when nothing
has been set already.
However i dont see why the network has to be freenode when none of gnome
channels are on freenode.
IMO /freenode/ is a distro setting, each distro should just change it to
which ever they use.

> and there users will use empathy
> for IRC support and distro support is on #ubuntu #freenode #meego on
> freenode.
>

Same was done when Pidgin was default[thanks bilal], when it was the
default. The network was changed to Ubuntu for Ubuntu.

> cassidy was not there on Friday but others gave a +1
>

If upstream wants to do it, its nice but still weird. ;)

--
Cheers,
Vish

the suggestion they made was:
maybe force freenode to be first in the list, gimpnet the 2nd, then the rest
in alpha order

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Vish <email address hidden> wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 07:44 +0000, Omer Akram wrote:
> > because empathy is created for users.
>
> That doesnt have to mean that upstream have to set it to freenode.
> The patch does the right thing in setting a default network when nothing
> has been set already.
> However i dont see why the network has to be freenode when none of gnome
> channels are on freenode.
> IMO /freenode/ is a distro setting, each distro should just change it to
> which ever they use.
>
> > and there users will use empathy
> > for IRC support and distro support is on #ubuntu #freenode #meego on
> > freenode.
> >
>
> Same was done when Pidgin was default[thanks bilal], when it was the
> default. The network was changed to Ubuntu for Ubuntu.
>
> > cassidy was not there on Friday but others gave a +1
> >
>
> If upstream wants to do it, its nice but still weird. ;)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Vish
>
> --
> freenode is not the default IRC server
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/569289
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to empathy
> in ubuntu.
>
> Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: New
> Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: In Progress
> Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: In Progress
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: empathy
>
> freenode is not the default IRC server in Empathy. Through past tireless
> bug reporting on the part of others, freenode is the default IRC server in
> most (all?) other IRC clients shipped with Ubuntu, to aid new users in
> getting IRC support. Empathy, as the only pre-installed IRC-capable client
> on Ubuntu desktop computers should also default to freenode, instead of the
> first network in the (alphabetically-sorted) network list.
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
> Package: empathy 2.30.0.1-0ubuntu3
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.32-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
> Uname: Linux 2.6.32-21-generic i686
> NonfreeKernelModules: wl
> Architecture: i386
> Date: Fri Apr 23 21:01:55 2010
> InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Release Candidate i386
> (20100419.1)
> ProcEnviron:
> LANG=en_US.utf8
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> SourcePackage: empathy
>
>
>

> On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 09:12 +0000, Omer Akram wrote:
> the suggestion they made was:
> maybe force freenode to be first in the list, gimpnet the 2nd, then the rest
> in alpha order
>

why are we changing the list order? what does that have to do with this bug? Or how does it solve this bug?

@Bilal: what does your patch effectively do? Are you adding a new network to the list?
We already have "Ubuntu servers" listed in the options. To fix this bug , we just need to have the "Ubuntu servers" selected as the default option.

looking at bilal's patch. It should select *freenode* as default irc network (not changing its position). as you expect.

@Vish, Omer is right that my patch selects freenode as default server. It first checks if an already-existing account is being loaded, else it forces the drop-down list to default to Freenode. This is all it does.

This bug was fixed in the package empathy - 2.31.5.1-0ubuntu3

---------------
empathy (2.31.5.1-0ubuntu3) maverick; urgency=low

  * debian/patches/38_lp_569289.patch
    - Set freenode as default IRC network for new IRC accounts (LP: #569289)
 -- Bilal Akhtar <email address hidden> Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:38:58 +0530

Another bug fixed!

this fix causes a regression bug 569289

bug 615081