quickly should suggest devscripts

Hi, thanks for your interest in Quickly and your bug report.

In fact, we are hesitating between suggest or recomends. That's true that postfix installation is kinda tricky for an "easy of use" tools.

We'll take a decision soon.

I would argue that the postfix requirement is more of a devscripts bug.

I partially agree.

If you want the whole story, here it is:
- Quickly ubuntu-project template used devscripts at the beginning (with debuild/debuild -S).
- Seeing that we were pooling postfix (and the associated debconf questions), rick and I decided to use dpkg-buildpackage instead. That's what is done.
- But Quickly is calling python-mkdebian from distutils-extra package which uses debchange, part of devscripts but don't depend on it. It's only suggested.
After talking to pitti, as python-mkdebian is just a minor command in distutils-extra, he keeps it as suggested, not depend.

So, here is the trick, we can put it again as a recommends, but that will move us back to our first issue...

Care to open a bug on devscripts to ask removing postfix requirement?

I'll look into it in about 8 hours :)

I had a quick glance now and couldn't find the dep that was pulling in
postfix in the first place!

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Didier Roche <email address hidden> wrote:

> I partially agree.
>
> If you want the whole story, here it is:
> - Quickly ubuntu-project template used devscripts at the beginning (with
> debuild/debuild -S).
> - Seeing that we were pooling postfix (and the associated debconf
> questions), rick and I decided to use dpkg-buildpackage instead. That's what
> is done.
> - But Quickly is calling python-mkdebian from distutils-extra package which
> uses debchange, part of devscripts but don't depend on it. It's only
> suggested.
> After talking to pitti, as python-mkdebian is just a minor command in
> distutils-extra, he keeps it as suggested, not depend.
>
> So, here is the trick, we can put it again as a recommends, but that
> will move us back to our first issue...
>
> Care to open a bug on devscripts to ask removing postfix requirement?
>
> --
> quickly should suggest devscripts
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/465833
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>

Ok... so basically postfix is pulled in through a rather obtuse set of dependencies.

devscripts depends on bsd-mailx : http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/devscripts
bsd-mailx depends on either postfix or another mail-transport-agent : http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bsd-mailx

Unfortunately that doesn't make life any easier here as the requirement on devscripts is needed... but unless the user has another mail-transport-agent, it is going to default to postfix.

A quick 20min google hunt has led me to believe postfix is one of the better ones to install anyways.... http://lwn.net/Articles/196724/